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	<title>Comments on: Father Chris Carpenter breaks with Phoenix Catholic Diocese</title>
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		<title>By: lome</title>
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		<description>cont.....masonic P2 lodge in Italy Effective 1962

21.   Destroy the Pope by destroying his Empire of Universities. Separate universities from the Pope by saying that the government would then be glad to give them grants of money. Change the names of religious institutions to profane names, such as Immaculate Conception School to Compton Heights School. Call it Ecumenical.
22.   Attack the Pope’s authority, by setting an age limit on his services. Reduce this gradually. Say that you are keeping him from being overworked.
23.   Be bold, weaken the Pope by setting up a Bishop’s Synod. The Pope will then be a figurehead, as England is ruled by the House of Lords and the House of Commons. The King takes orders from them. Then weaken the Bishop’s authority by setting up a counterpart at the Priest’s level. Say that the Priests are finally getting the recognition they deserve. Then weaken the Priest’s authority by setting up lay groups to boss the Priests. There will be so much hatred developed, that even Cardinals will leave the Church. Say that the Church is now Democratic. Praise the New Collegiality.
24. Reduce Priest’s vocations by losing the respect of the Laity. One scandal of a Priest in politics will lose thousands of vocations. Praise fallen away Priests, who give up everything for the love of a woman. Call them heroic. Honor laicized Priests, as true martyrs who were being so oppressed that they couldn’t take it any longer.
25. Start closing Churches, because of lack of Priests, call it economizing, and good business practice.  Say that God listens to prayers anywhere, so Churches are extravagant.
26. Use Lay Commissions and weak faith Priests to quickly condemn and disapprove of any new apparitions of the Blessed Mother or any alleged miracles, especially of St. Michael, the Archangel. Be absolutely certain that none whatever get approval after Vatican II. Then call it disobedience to authority if anybody follows the messages, or repeats them or EVEN THINKS about them.
27. Pass a law to disband the Curia each time a new Pope comes in. This is certain to insure that the Curia will contain many radicals and modernists.
28. Elect an Anti-Pope. Say that he will bring the Protestants back into the Church, and maybe even the Jews. Anti-Pope can be elected by giving the vote to the Bishops. There will be so many Popes nominated that an Anti-Pope will get in as a compromise Pope.
29. Eliminate Confession before first Holy Communion for 2nd and 3rd Grade children, so that they will not bother about Confession before Communion when they get into 4th or 5th or higher grades either. Confession will then disappear.
30. Get women and laity to give Communion, say that this is the Age of the Laity. Start giving Communion in the hand like the Protestants, instead of on the tongue – say that Christ did it this way. Collect some for Satan Masses. Then replace individual Communion by a bowl of wafers, to be taken on leaving the Church.  Say that they will then carry God’s gift into their daily lives. Install Communion vending machines, call them Tabernacles.
31. After Anti-Pope reigns, disband Synod of Bishops, Priest’s Unions, and lay advisor groups. Forbid any Religious to engage in politics without permission. Say that God loves humility, and hates glory seekers.
32. Give supreme power to Pope, to select his successors. Order the Mark of the Beast on all true lovers of God, under pain of excommunication.
33. Declare all former Church Dogmas false, except the Dogma of Infallibility. State that Jesus Christ was a revolutionary that didn’t make it. Say that the true Christ will soon come.
34. Order all subjects of the Pope, to fight in Holy Crusades to spread the One World Religion. Satan knows where all lost gold is! Ruthlessly conquer the world. This will give to humanity, what they have always yearned for the Golden Age of Peace.
 
Editor's Comment: 
Look at how many items the Antichrist forces have accomplished. We must fight the changes in the Church with all our might for they are coming from Satan himself.  The laity must save the Church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cont&#8230;..masonic P2 lodge in Italy Effective 1962</p>
<p>21.   Destroy the Pope by destroying his Empire of Universities. Separate universities from the Pope by saying that the government would then be glad to give them grants of money. Change the names of religious institutions to profane names, such as Immaculate Conception School to Compton Heights School. Call it Ecumenical.<br />
22.   Attack the Pope’s authority, by setting an age limit on his services. Reduce this gradually. Say that you are keeping him from being overworked.<br />
23.   Be bold, weaken the Pope by setting up a Bishop’s Synod. The Pope will then be a figurehead, as England is ruled by the House of Lords and the House of Commons. The King takes orders from them. Then weaken the Bishop’s authority by setting up a counterpart at the Priest’s level. Say that the Priests are finally getting the recognition they deserve. Then weaken the Priest’s authority by setting up lay groups to boss the Priests. There will be so much hatred developed, that even Cardinals will leave the Church. Say that the Church is now Democratic. Praise the New Collegiality.<br />
24. Reduce Priest’s vocations by losing the respect of the Laity. One scandal of a Priest in politics will lose thousands of vocations. Praise fallen away Priests, who give up everything for the love of a woman. Call them heroic. Honor laicized Priests, as true martyrs who were being so oppressed that they couldn’t take it any longer.<br />
25. Start closing Churches, because of lack of Priests, call it economizing, and good business practice.  Say that God listens to prayers anywhere, so Churches are extravagant.<br />
26. Use Lay Commissions and weak faith Priests to quickly condemn and disapprove of any new apparitions of the Blessed Mother or any alleged miracles, especially of St. Michael, the Archangel. Be absolutely certain that none whatever get approval after Vatican II. Then call it disobedience to authority if anybody follows the messages, or repeats them or EVEN THINKS about them.<br />
27. Pass a law to disband the Curia each time a new Pope comes in. This is certain to insure that the Curia will contain many radicals and modernists.<br />
28. Elect an Anti-Pope. Say that he will bring the Protestants back into the Church, and maybe even the Jews. Anti-Pope can be elected by giving the vote to the Bishops. There will be so many Popes nominated that an Anti-Pope will get in as a compromise Pope.<br />
29. Eliminate Confession before first Holy Communion for 2nd and 3rd Grade children, so that they will not bother about Confession before Communion when they get into 4th or 5th or higher grades either. Confession will then disappear.<br />
30. Get women and laity to give Communion, say that this is the Age of the Laity. Start giving Communion in the hand like the Protestants, instead of on the tongue – say that Christ did it this way. Collect some for Satan Masses. Then replace individual Communion by a bowl of wafers, to be taken on leaving the Church.  Say that they will then carry God’s gift into their daily lives. Install Communion vending machines, call them Tabernacles.<br />
31. After Anti-Pope reigns, disband Synod of Bishops, Priest’s Unions, and lay advisor groups. Forbid any Religious to engage in politics without permission. Say that God loves humility, and hates glory seekers.<br />
32. Give supreme power to Pope, to select his successors. Order the Mark of the Beast on all true lovers of God, under pain of excommunication.<br />
33. Declare all former Church Dogmas false, except the Dogma of Infallibility. State that Jesus Christ was a revolutionary that didn’t make it. Say that the true Christ will soon come.<br />
34. Order all subjects of the Pope, to fight in Holy Crusades to spread the One World Religion. Satan knows where all lost gold is! Ruthlessly conquer the world. This will give to humanity, what they have always yearned for the Golden Age of Peace.</p>
<p>Editor&#8217;s Comment:<br />
Look at how many items the Antichrist forces have accomplished. We must fight the changes in the Church with all our might for they are coming from Satan himself.  The laity must save the Church.</p>
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		<title>By: lome</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the Office for Antichrist!!!  It was issued by the infamous Masonic P2 Lodge in Italy just prior to Vatican II.  Here is how it reads:
 
Effective March 1962. (The Aggiormento of Vatican II). All warlocks (officers) shall report on the progress of these critical directives!  Pope John XXIII will accept them easily!
 
1.   Remove St. Michael, the protector of the Catholic Church, from every prayer whether inside or outside of the Mass, once and for all. Remove all of his statues. Say that it detracts from Christ.
2.   Put a stop to practice of penance during Lent, such as eating no meat on Fridays, or fasting. Halt any acts of self-denial. Replace by acts of joy, happiness and love of neighbor. Say that Christ already won heaven for us, and that the efforts of humans are to no avail.
3.   Assign Protestant Ministers to revise and desacredize the Mass. Instigate doubts that the Eucharist is closer to the Protestants belief that it is only bread and symbolic.
4.   Stop all Latin in Mass Liturgy, and devotions and songs. It lends a feeling of mystery and respect. Show it up as mumbo jumbo of soothsayers. People will then stop thinking that Priests are of superior intelligence.
5.   Encourage the ladies to remove their hats in Church; hair is sexy. And demand to be Acolytes and Priestesses. Base it on the Constitution. Start a women’s liberation.
6.     Stop Communicants from kneeling to receive the Host. Tell Nuns to stop the children from folding their hands to and from Communion. Tell them that God loves them as they are, and wants them to be perfectly relaxed.
7.   Stop sacred organ music. Bring in Guitars, Jews Harps, Drums, and stomping of the feet. This will prevent any personal prayer or conversation with Jesus. Don’t give Jesus time to call children to religious vocations.
8.   Profane hymns to the Mother of God, St. Joseph. Call it idolatry. Replace with Protestant songs. This will imply that the Catholic Church is finally admitting that Protestantism is the true religion, or at least equal to the Catholic Church.
9.     Replace all hymns, even to Jesus. This reminds people of their sweet childhood, which will in turn remind them of the peace that came from living a rigorous life of self-denial and penance for God. Bring in only new songs, to convince people that the former rites were somehow wrong. Be sure to have at least one song in each Mass that never mentions Jesus, but only love of humans. The young will be enthusiastic about love of neighbor.
10.    Remove all Saints relics from Altars, and then remove the altars themselves. Replace with Pagan, unblessed tables, which will be used to offer live sacrifice at Satan Masses. Repeal the Church law that says that Mass in Churches can only be said on altars containing Saint’s relics.
11.    Stop the practice of saying Mass before the Holy Eucharist in the Tabernacle. Do not allow any Tabernacles on the tables used for the Mass. Make the table look like a dinner table. Make it portable, to imply that it is not sacred, but could do double duty for anything, such as a conference table or for playing cards. Later, put at least one chair at this table. Make the Priest sit in this, after Communion to signify that he rests after his meal. Never let the Priest kneel at Mass, nor genuflect people don’t kneel at meals.
12.      Remove Saints from the Church calendar, a few at a time. Forbid the Priests the right to talk about Saints, unless mentioned in the Gospel. Say that there might be Protestants in the Church who would not like it.
13.    When introducing the Gospels, drop the word Saint, in Gospel according to Saint John, or any other Saint. Simply say, Gospel according to John. This will imply that people should not honor them anymore. Keep rewriting Bibles until identical to Protestants!
14.    Remove and destroy all personal prayer books. This will stop Litanies to the Sacred Heart, the Blessed Mother, St. Joseph, and preparation for Communion. It will also effectively reduce thanksgiving after Communion to a sham.
15.    Remove all statues and pictures of Angels. Why have statues of our enemies around? Call it a myth or a bedtime story.
16.    Eliminate the Minor Order of Exorcist, for expelling Devils. Work hard on this one. Sell the idea that there is not a real Devil. Say it is the Bible’s way of representing evil, and there can’t be a good story without a villain. Then they will not believe in Hell either, and will never be afraid of going there. Say that Hell is nothing more but being away from God, and what is so bad about that?
17.    Teach that Jesus was only a human, who had brothers and sisters, and He hated the establishment. Say that He loved the company of prostitutes, especially Mary Magdalene. Say that He had no use for Churches or Synagogues.
18.   Remember that you can cause Nuns to quit, by appealing to their vanity, charm and beauty; make them change their Habits, which will automatically make them throw away their Rosaries. Show the world that there is dissention in their Convents, and vocations will dry up.
19.    Burn all Catechisms. Tell religion teachers to teach love of God’s people, instead of love of God. Tell them it is mature, to love openly. Make sex a common word in Religion Classes. Make sex a new Religion.
20.   Close all Catholic Schools by reducing the number of Nun’s vocations. Say that Nuns are just underpaid social workers, and the Church is getting rich off of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Office for Antichrist!!!  It was issued by the infamous Masonic P2 Lodge in Italy just prior to Vatican II.  Here is how it reads:</p>
<p>Effective March 1962. (The Aggiormento of Vatican II). All warlocks (officers) shall report on the progress of these critical directives!  Pope John XXIII will accept them easily!</p>
<p>1.   Remove St. Michael, the protector of the Catholic Church, from every prayer whether inside or outside of the Mass, once and for all. Remove all of his statues. Say that it detracts from Christ.<br />
2.   Put a stop to practice of penance during Lent, such as eating no meat on Fridays, or fasting. Halt any acts of self-denial. Replace by acts of joy, happiness and love of neighbor. Say that Christ already won heaven for us, and that the efforts of humans are to no avail.<br />
3.   Assign Protestant Ministers to revise and desacredize the Mass. Instigate doubts that the Eucharist is closer to the Protestants belief that it is only bread and symbolic.<br />
4.   Stop all Latin in Mass Liturgy, and devotions and songs. It lends a feeling of mystery and respect. Show it up as mumbo jumbo of soothsayers. People will then stop thinking that Priests are of superior intelligence.<br />
5.   Encourage the ladies to remove their hats in Church; hair is sexy. And demand to be Acolytes and Priestesses. Base it on the Constitution. Start a women’s liberation.<br />
6.     Stop Communicants from kneeling to receive the Host. Tell Nuns to stop the children from folding their hands to and from Communion. Tell them that God loves them as they are, and wants them to be perfectly relaxed.<br />
7.   Stop sacred organ music. Bring in Guitars, Jews Harps, Drums, and stomping of the feet. This will prevent any personal prayer or conversation with Jesus. Don’t give Jesus time to call children to religious vocations.<br />
8.   Profane hymns to the Mother of God, St. Joseph. Call it idolatry. Replace with Protestant songs. This will imply that the Catholic Church is finally admitting that Protestantism is the true religion, or at least equal to the Catholic Church.<br />
9.     Replace all hymns, even to Jesus. This reminds people of their sweet childhood, which will in turn remind them of the peace that came from living a rigorous life of self-denial and penance for God. Bring in only new songs, to convince people that the former rites were somehow wrong. Be sure to have at least one song in each Mass that never mentions Jesus, but only love of humans. The young will be enthusiastic about love of neighbor.<br />
10.    Remove all Saints relics from Altars, and then remove the altars themselves. Replace with Pagan, unblessed tables, which will be used to offer live sacrifice at Satan Masses. Repeal the Church law that says that Mass in Churches can only be said on altars containing Saint’s relics.<br />
11.    Stop the practice of saying Mass before the Holy Eucharist in the Tabernacle. Do not allow any Tabernacles on the tables used for the Mass. Make the table look like a dinner table. Make it portable, to imply that it is not sacred, but could do double duty for anything, such as a conference table or for playing cards. Later, put at least one chair at this table. Make the Priest sit in this, after Communion to signify that he rests after his meal. Never let the Priest kneel at Mass, nor genuflect people don’t kneel at meals.<br />
12.      Remove Saints from the Church calendar, a few at a time. Forbid the Priests the right to talk about Saints, unless mentioned in the Gospel. Say that there might be Protestants in the Church who would not like it.<br />
13.    When introducing the Gospels, drop the word Saint, in Gospel according to Saint John, or any other Saint. Simply say, Gospel according to John. This will imply that people should not honor them anymore. Keep rewriting Bibles until identical to Protestants!<br />
14.    Remove and destroy all personal prayer books. This will stop Litanies to the Sacred Heart, the Blessed Mother, St. Joseph, and preparation for Communion. It will also effectively reduce thanksgiving after Communion to a sham.<br />
15.    Remove all statues and pictures of Angels. Why have statues of our enemies around? Call it a myth or a bedtime story.<br />
16.    Eliminate the Minor Order of Exorcist, for expelling Devils. Work hard on this one. Sell the idea that there is not a real Devil. Say it is the Bible’s way of representing evil, and there can’t be a good story without a villain. Then they will not believe in Hell either, and will never be afraid of going there. Say that Hell is nothing more but being away from God, and what is so bad about that?<br />
17.    Teach that Jesus was only a human, who had brothers and sisters, and He hated the establishment. Say that He loved the company of prostitutes, especially Mary Magdalene. Say that He had no use for Churches or Synagogues.<br />
18.   Remember that you can cause Nuns to quit, by appealing to their vanity, charm and beauty; make them change their Habits, which will automatically make them throw away their Rosaries. Show the world that there is dissention in their Convents, and vocations will dry up.<br />
19.    Burn all Catechisms. Tell religion teachers to teach love of God’s people, instead of love of God. Tell them it is mature, to love openly. Make sex a common word in Religion Classes. Make sex a new Religion.<br />
20.   Close all Catholic Schools by reducing the number of Nun’s vocations. Say that Nuns are just underpaid social workers, and the Church is getting rich off of them.</p>
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		<title>By: lome</title>
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		<dc:creator>lome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fr. Cris,
Don't worry of wrong spelling. That won't condemn your soul in hell!
Fr.You knows where your heart is? Does it says to follow Jesus to the letter?

Jesus’s church is with Peter "The Rock" Both in Hebrew and Aramaic? Cephas (in Aramaic; cf. St. John 1:42). Cephas means rock.

Why would the Lord effectively say, "Blessed are you, Simon. You are now to be called Peter, and upon "Rock" I now build my Church. Here are the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven!”?? 

Why change the Church now, when the foundations withstood the test of times?
Just too bad .If you can make Christ agree then He is not God. Yours is.
You know that the foundation is Christ and you dare change it?
God is not a man that he thinks like one.
God is not a respecter of any person. He does what he pleases.
I wish you can be just as you are like regular guys who really try to follow Christ by being hard in the flesh, and strong in Spirit.
Being effeminate won't condemn you to hell either, It is the practice of homosexuality, adultery ECT that you teaches to be right with God?
So how did you go around Deuteronomy?

Oh, how Christ loves you, his dedicated? And how they (his Dedicated) offend the immaculate heart of Mary and Jesus?

You are aware the God put a curse in this abomination up to the seventh generations.Luci is legalistic.

Obedience to the Holy Scriptures, to the spirit of the law is the one that matters.
Your is not a popularity contest. Your higher calling is to God.
"Yay or Nay” says the Lord. Anything in between is of the Devils
They were just tagging at your stole, but then you gave the whole habit...

This is spiritual warfare. This is a fight to the finish!  Revealed to us in Gin.3:15 
I believed that we are at the end times of John..
The separation of sheep from the goats..
May God show you his ways. I will include you in my prayer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fr. Cris,<br />
Don&#8217;t worry of wrong spelling. That won&#8217;t condemn your soul in hell!<br />
Fr.You knows where your heart is? Does it says to follow Jesus to the letter?</p>
<p>Jesus’s church is with Peter &#8220;The Rock&#8221; Both in Hebrew and Aramaic? Cephas (in Aramaic; cf. St. John 1:42). Cephas means rock.</p>
<p>Why would the Lord effectively say, &#8220;Blessed are you, Simon. You are now to be called Peter, and upon &#8220;Rock&#8221; I now build my Church. Here are the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven!”?? </p>
<p>Why change the Church now, when the foundations withstood the test of times?<br />
Just too bad .If you can make Christ agree then He is not God. Yours is.<br />
You know that the foundation is Christ and you dare change it?<br />
God is not a man that he thinks like one.<br />
God is not a respecter of any person. He does what he pleases.<br />
I wish you can be just as you are like regular guys who really try to follow Christ by being hard in the flesh, and strong in Spirit.<br />
Being effeminate won&#8217;t condemn you to hell either, It is the practice of homosexuality, adultery ECT that you teaches to be right with God?<br />
So how did you go around Deuteronomy?</p>
<p>Oh, how Christ loves you, his dedicated? And how they (his Dedicated) offend the immaculate heart of Mary and Jesus?</p>
<p>You are aware the God put a curse in this abomination up to the seventh generations.Luci is legalistic.</p>
<p>Obedience to the Holy Scriptures, to the spirit of the law is the one that matters.<br />
Your is not a popularity contest. Your higher calling is to God.<br />
&#8220;Yay or Nay” says the Lord. Anything in between is of the Devils<br />
They were just tagging at your stole, but then you gave the whole habit&#8230;</p>
<p>This is spiritual warfare. This is a fight to the finish!  Revealed to us in Gin.3:15<br />
I believed that we are at the end times of John..<br />
The separation of sheep from the goats..<br />
May God show you his ways. I will include you in my prayer.</p>
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		<title>By: lome</title>
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		<dc:creator>lome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know what comment I can give to this church! This is a church of men.Their God is the God of this world!

Homosexuality is condemned continually throughout the Old Testament, where it is most Often mentioned in conjunction with pagan ritual prostitution.

Those who do these things,regardless of the Christian's name affiliations are offender of God They are bunch of rebels.


St. John Chrysostom, Archbishop of Constantinople (A.D. 347-407),

On Romans 1:26-27:  ALL these affections then were vile, but chiefly the mad lust after males; for the soul is more the sufferer in sins, and more dishonored, than the body in diseases. But behold how here, too, as in the case of the doctrines, he deprives them of excuse, by saying of the women, that “they changed the natural use.” For no one, he means, can say that it was by being hindered of legitimate intercourse that they came to this pass, or that it was from having no means to fulfill their desire that they were driven into this monstrous in saneness. For the changing implies possession. Which also when discoursing upon the doctrines he said,“They changed the truth of God for a lie.” And with regard to the men again, he shows the same thing by saying, “Leaving the natural use of the woman.” … For genuine pleasure is that which is according to nature. But when God hath left one, then all things are turned upside down. And thus not only was their doctrine Satanical, but their life, too, was diabolical.

We are not judging,Either they are right and Deuteronomy is wrong,or Vice versa. "Yay" or "Nay" says the Lord.Anything in between is of the devils!
But we are asked to Pray for their unbelief.That they may find Christ.

Deuteronomy 23:17-18

“There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel , or a sodomite of the sons of Israel . Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore or the price of a dog [homosexual prostitute], into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these are abominations unto the LORD thy God.”

Homosexual perversion was an integral part of pagan idolatry, and its practice continually evoked God’s anger against the Israelite kings. One king who “did what was right in the sight of the Lord” is Josiah, who was commended by the Lord for his proactive repentance for the sins of Judah and told, that he would be spared the coming judgment (2 Kings 23:24). He is honored in Scripture for breaking down the high places (of pagan ritual), and destroying “the houses of the sodomites”


Folks,Christianity is all about "obedience"to the words and Laws of God.
Our Religion of the cross is mirrored to that of the Church of Christ and not to the Church of men!...

Some times God will let somebody die before his/her time as an act of Mercy,
Instead of letting his weak ways to exhaust itself on earth and suffer terrifying  torture in Hell..... catholic saint 
"God is not mock!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what comment I can give to this church! This is a church of men.Their God is the God of this world!</p>
<p>Homosexuality is condemned continually throughout the Old Testament, where it is most Often mentioned in conjunction with pagan ritual prostitution.</p>
<p>Those who do these things,regardless of the Christian&#8217;s name affiliations are offender of God They are bunch of rebels.</p>
<p>St. John Chrysostom, Archbishop of Constantinople (A.D. 347-407),</p>
<p>On Romans 1:26-27:  ALL these affections then were vile, but chiefly the mad lust after males; for the soul is more the sufferer in sins, and more dishonored, than the body in diseases. But behold how here, too, as in the case of the doctrines, he deprives them of excuse, by saying of the women, that “they changed the natural use.” For no one, he means, can say that it was by being hindered of legitimate intercourse that they came to this pass, or that it was from having no means to fulfill their desire that they were driven into this monstrous in saneness. For the changing implies possession. Which also when discoursing upon the doctrines he said,“They changed the truth of God for a lie.” And with regard to the men again, he shows the same thing by saying, “Leaving the natural use of the woman.” … For genuine pleasure is that which is according to nature. But when God hath left one, then all things are turned upside down. And thus not only was their doctrine Satanical, but their life, too, was diabolical.</p>
<p>We are not judging,Either they are right and Deuteronomy is wrong,or Vice versa. &#8220;Yay&#8221; or &#8220;Nay&#8221; says the Lord.Anything in between is of the devils!<br />
But we are asked to Pray for their unbelief.That they may find Christ.</p>
<p>Deuteronomy 23:17-18</p>
<p>“There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel , or a sodomite of the sons of Israel . Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore or the price of a dog [homosexual prostitute], into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these are abominations unto the LORD thy God.”</p>
<p>Homosexual perversion was an integral part of pagan idolatry, and its practice continually evoked God’s anger against the Israelite kings. One king who “did what was right in the sight of the Lord” is Josiah, who was commended by the Lord for his proactive repentance for the sins of Judah and told, that he would be spared the coming judgment (2 Kings 23:24). He is honored in Scripture for breaking down the high places (of pagan ritual), and destroying “the houses of the sodomites”</p>
<p>Folks,Christianity is all about &#8220;obedience&#8221;to the words and Laws of God.<br />
Our Religion of the cross is mirrored to that of the Church of Christ and not to the Church of men!&#8230;</p>
<p>Some times God will let somebody die before his/her time as an act of Mercy,<br />
Instead of letting his weak ways to exhaust itself on earth and suffer terrifying  torture in Hell&#8230;.. catholic saint<br />
&#8220;God is not mock!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear fr chris,I do not know you but I wish you well.I have chosen to stay and fight for change from within.I hope you find peace and fufillment in your new ministry.God bless You</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear fr chris,I do not know you but I wish you well.I have chosen to stay and fight for change from within.I hope you find peace and fufillment in your new ministry.God bless You</p>
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		<title>By: Father Fano Ngcobo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Father Fano Ngcobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 10:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done Fr Carpenter. May trhe gods walk with you.

From Africa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done Fr Carpenter. May trhe gods walk with you.</p>
<p>From Africa</p>
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		<title>By: Father Fano Ngcobo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Father Fano Ngcobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 10:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done Fr Carpenter! You have nothing to lose for leaving the Roman Church. We all have! I wishj you all the best in your new home and ministry. I can only promise you that God has already blessed you abundantly. 

Ministry in the church should not be about power, authority, money and status but should be about love. I hope to meet up with you in the Reformed Catholic Church and have more dialogue with you and your new ministry.

Walk tall! and do not allowe critics to destroy you. You have already conquered them.

Sincerely

Msgr Fano Ngcobo,sacf
For Reformed Cathoklic Church in South Africa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done Fr Carpenter! You have nothing to lose for leaving the Roman Church. We all have! I wishj you all the best in your new home and ministry. I can only promise you that God has already blessed you abundantly. </p>
<p>Ministry in the church should not be about power, authority, money and status but should be about love. I hope to meet up with you in the Reformed Catholic Church and have more dialogue with you and your new ministry.</p>
<p>Walk tall! and do not allowe critics to destroy you. You have already conquered them.</p>
<p>Sincerely</p>
<p>Msgr Fano Ngcobo,sacf<br />
For Reformed Cathoklic Church in South Africa</p>
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		<title>By: alexc</title>
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		<dc:creator>alexc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 03:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So long to this embarassment.  He's not nor was he ever a Roman Catholic Church.  Last time I checked, molesting children wasn't part of the priest duties. This guy should have never been ordained in the first place.  It's not a matter of whether he's gay or not, it's a matter that he abused his position and selfishly used the church to further HIS agenda.  Let's hope he hasn't abused any children as others of his ilk have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So long to this embarassment.  He&#8217;s not nor was he ever a Roman Catholic Church.  Last time I checked, molesting children wasn&#8217;t part of the priest duties. This guy should have never been ordained in the first place.  It&#8217;s not a matter of whether he&#8217;s gay or not, it&#8217;s a matter that he abused his position and selfishly used the church to further HIS agenda.  Let&#8217;s hope he hasn&#8217;t abused any children as others of his ilk have.</p>
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		<title>By: Cansius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cansius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 20:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good riddance to the sodomite....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good riddance to the sodomite&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: DTungsten</title>
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		<dc:creator>DTungsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The surface analysis is correct - Bishop Olmsted has changed a lot about the Diocese of Phoenix.  However, the comments that follow miss the point entirely.  His leadership has "righted the ship" and brought orthodoxy and accountability back to the Church of Phoenix itself and to its priests.  

As a distant observer, it seems as though a significant number of men were ordained to the priesthood in years prior that should not have been.  Their understanding of God, and of the Church, are/were sorely lacking.  From what I can see, the good bishop has attempted to help them to correct their misunderstandings.  Some, it is obvious, have responded positively to his fatherly leadership.  Others kick and pout publicly, trying to score points with newspaper reporters that love to sow discord in the Church or with those in the pews (or not) who imagine they can alter the Church into something that She is not.

Many thanks are due to Pope John Paul II for sending Bishop Olmsted to us here in Phoenix, to Archbishop Sambi, to others that were responsible for his coming here, and most of all to the Holy Spirit for guiding this fine shepherd.  And thank you to Bishop Olmsted for remaining true to the Church.  It does not go unnoticed or unappreciated!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The surface analysis is correct - Bishop Olmsted has changed a lot about the Diocese of Phoenix.  However, the comments that follow miss the point entirely.  His leadership has &#8220;righted the ship&#8221; and brought orthodoxy and accountability back to the Church of Phoenix itself and to its priests.  </p>
<p>As a distant observer, it seems as though a significant number of men were ordained to the priesthood in years prior that should not have been.  Their understanding of God, and of the Church, are/were sorely lacking.  From what I can see, the good bishop has attempted to help them to correct their misunderstandings.  Some, it is obvious, have responded positively to his fatherly leadership.  Others kick and pout publicly, trying to score points with newspaper reporters that love to sow discord in the Church or with those in the pews (or not) who imagine they can alter the Church into something that She is not.</p>
<p>Many thanks are due to Pope John Paul II for sending Bishop Olmsted to us here in Phoenix, to Archbishop Sambi, to others that were responsible for his coming here, and most of all to the Holy Spirit for guiding this fine shepherd.  And thank you to Bishop Olmsted for remaining true to the Church.  It does not go unnoticed or unappreciated!</p>
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